October 19th, 2006

The Kingdom of Heaven and the New World Order

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For the student of revealed scripture it is not difficult to understand how Satan attempts to counterfeit symbols, rituals, institutions, and decrees given by God. The same holds true for the Kingdom of Heaven, a theocratically governed political institution with God as the King.

The D&C Institute manual for D&C 38:21-22 says the following:

Though Jesus is King by right and authority, President Joseph Fielding Smith taught that at the council of Adam-ondi-Ahman, Christ will be crowned the actual, political ruler of the world (see Notes and Commentary on D&C 116:1). President Smith further explained that the kingdom of God includes both political and spiritual aspects, for “when our Savior comes to rule in the millennium, all governments will become subject unto his government, and this has been referred to as the kingdom of God, which it is; but this is the political kingdom which will embrace all people whether they are in the Church or not. Of course, when every kindred, tongue and people become subject to the rule of Jesus Christ such will be in that political kingdom. We must keep these two thoughts in mind. But the kingdom of God is the Church of Jesus Christ, and it is the kingdom that shall endure forever. When the Savior prayed, ‘Thy kingdom come,’ he had reference to the kingdom in heaven which is to come when the millennial reign starts.

“When Christ comes, the political kingdom will be given to the Church. The Lord is going to make an end to all nations; that means this nation as well as any other. The kingdom of God is the Church, but during the millennium, the multitudes upon the face of the earth who are not in the Church will have to be governed, and many of their officers, who will be elected, may not be members of the Church.” (Doctrines of Salvation, 1:229-30.)

Satan’s counterfeit of a globalized political kingdom is what is known as the New World Order. Such an initiative boils down to the erosion of nations’ sovereignty in an attempt to form a one-world government. This is just what Christ will do when He comes, but evil, conspiratorial men under Satan’s direction and influence are seeking to do the same thing. The existing European Union is one such example. Erase borders, globalize government, currency, and economies, and place a few select individuals in control.

We have the same initiatives being promoted in our own government. On March 23, 2005, President Bush met secretly (i.e. without the approval of Congress) with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to form the Security and Prosperity Parntership, the beginnings of the North American Union.

Documents from domestic think tanks (drafted by individuals in cahoots with top government officials, being members of the same think tanks and organizations) clearly show the desire to promote a one-world government, globalized currency, and open borders.

Again, such events and initiatives should not be all that surprising to the avid student of scripture. Satan is working through evil men to bring about what only Christ can do. Satan’s attempt has resulted, is resulting, and will result in tyranny, oppression, slavery, and suppression. Christ’s will result in liberty, prosperity, love, and progress.

37 Responses to “The Kingdom of Heaven and the New World Order”

  1. Latter-day Teancum
    October 19, 2006 at 11:40 pm #

    Good post. You’ve given me something to think about.

    I don’t know much about the European Union or Security and Prosperity Parntership.

    How do you distinguish between those who are working toward world peace and unity from those who are working toward a New World Order?

  2. fontor
    October 20, 2006 at 1:50 am #

    Easy; Connor tells you.

  3. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 5:38 am #

    Connor,

    One thing to caution you on, not all groupings of nations equal to bringing about a “new world order” akin to the “one world government.” I speak specifically about Europe and the EU. The EU is a flawed, but worthy attempt to bring together nations that have warred for the past 2000 years, and we ought to appreciate what they’ve done. Europe has been at peace now for 61 years. When in their history have they ever been at peace for so long? I like seeing this over in Europe. I hope to see similar things elsewhere in the world. What is America doing to promote peace in the world?

  4. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:02 am #

    How do you distinguish between those who are working toward world peace and unity from those who are working toward a New World Order?

    Peace can (and should, imho) be obtained without having to dissolve all countries into one conglomerate union. The erosion of a nation’s borders and it’s adoption of standardized laws and policies that might be in conflict with their own at present are ways in which Satan subdues an individual’s liberties and rights.

    This is seen in the proposed (and highly unconstitutional) North American Union. We have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Mexico and Canada do not. One would assume that in the homogenization of our three countries we would have to abandon such a right. This is, sadly, right in line with the desire of the New World Order to disarm the populace. Compare Satan’s forced hegemony to Christ’s voluntary disarmament method:

    And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (Isa. 2:4)

    One thing to caution you on, not all groupings of nations equal to bringing about a “new world order” akin to the “one world government.” I speak specifically about Europe and the EU.

    Sorry, Dan, but I disagree with you.

    For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it [the secret combination, i.e. NWO] up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies… (Ether 8:25)

  5. fontor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:24 am #

    Sorry, but any political theory that depends on the actions of hypothetical spirit beings is in trouble from the start.

    Would you care to speculate on the mechanism by which Satan is trying to overthrow freedom? Would that be as an invisible mighty spirit force, or in the form of a tiny red person perched on millions of shoulders?

    Materialist theories (e.g. realism, complex interdependence, etc) are more predictable and testable. Otherwise, you ask a question like “How do we explain the rise of internationalism?” and the answer is “Satan”. What the heck is that?

  6. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:39 am #

    Fontor,

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, that Satan has great hold upon their hearts; he stirreth them up to iniquity against that which is good; (D&C 10:20)

    Satan did go about, leading away the hearts of the people, tempting them and causing them that they should do great wickedness in the land. (3 Ne. 2:3)

    And in those days Satan had great dominion among men, and raged in their hearts; and from thenceforth came wars and bloodshed; and a man’s hand was against his own brother, in administering death, because of secret works, seeking for power. (Moses 6:15)

    And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.
    For Lamech having entered into a covenant with Satan, after the manner of Cain, wherein he became Master Mahan, master of that great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan (Moses 5:30,49)

    And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever. (2 Ne. 26:22)

    And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of wickedness and whoredoms. (Ether 8:16)

    This is the main mechanism by which Satan is trying to overthrow freedom. Men who, like in times of old, have made a covenant with Satan and entered into a secret combination, the object of which being to gain power, riches, and glory.

  7. fontor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:51 am #

    So you’re saying that Satan has appeared — more or less corporeally — to certain people, they’ve sworn oaths to him, and they carry out his nefarious bidding?

    Egad, no wonder you oppose such people so forcefully. Such a person would be truly evil. But there be dragons. It’s conspiracy theory stuff, the kind of things people mutter to themselves.

    And really, it isn’t necessary to ascribe satanic motives to people who are working for world government, or even to people who are doing selfish things that harm people. Such people could be making individual decisions that they think are for the common good, or for short-term gain (respectively). No demons necessary. Just lots of small decisions.

    I realise that you may not agree since you’ve delved heavily into Satan Theory, and that seems to explain things to you. But it’s not a good theory.

  8. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 9:54 am #

    Connor,

    Peace can (and should, imho) be obtained without having to dissolve all countries into one conglomerate union.

    You do realize that before the Peace of Westphalia, nations did not exist as we see them today. The idea of a “nation” is not universal, nor permanent, but rather man-made. Interestingly, just how does a Mormon in Germany identify himself first? As a Mormon or as a German? The identity of individuals and communities is based on an abstract concept called an “Imagined Community.” That “imagined community” can be as large as the entire world, or as small as two or three gathered together. The freedom experienced in such a community depends not on its labeling as a “nation” or anything else, but by the laws created to govern that “Imagned community.”

    One would assume that in the homogenization of our three countries we would have to abandon such a right. This is, sadly, right in line with the desire of the New World Order to disarm the populace. Compare Satan’s forced hegemony to Christ’s voluntary disarmament method:

    You assume many things that seem based on fear rather than anything else. You assume that because Canada and Mexico don’t bear arms that America must suddenly give up their arms. Moreover, since you use scripture to base your political philosophies, tell me where in the scriptures we are told to “bear arms.” The scripture you quoted states that Christians voluntarily give up their right to bear arms. They choose out of their own free will to not bear weapons of destruction and violence. That said, here’s the question: does the moment they give up their arms mean they are no longer free? You seem to equate freedom with the right to bear arms, as if the moment you give up those weapons, you are no longer free. Frankly, I trust the Lord to keep me free far more than I trust the arms of flesh to keep me free.

  9. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:56 am #

    Egad, no wonder you oppose such people so forcefully. Such a person would be truly evil. But there be dragons. It’s conspiracy theory stuff, the kind of things people mutter to themselves.

    Fontor, I don’t expect a self-labeled “ex-Mormon atheist” to believe this stuff! 🙂

    President Benson once said that “there is no conspiracy theory in the Book of Mormon—it is a conspiracy fact.”

    And really, it isn’t necessary to ascribe satanic motives to people who are working for world government, or even to people who are doing selfish things that harm people.

    Right, I don’t mean to imply that every person promoting these initatives has made a deal with the devil. Heavens no. But, there are a few select people in power who have. No doubt about it.

    I realise that you may not agree since you’ve delved heavily into Satan Theory, and that seems to explain things to you. But it’s not a good theory.

    Sure it is. All it requires is a belief in ancient scripture and modern revelation. 🙂

  10. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 9:57 am #

    Fontor,

    And really, it isn’t necessary to ascribe satanic motives to people who are working for world government, or even to people who are doing selfish things that harm people. Such people could be making individual decisions that they think are for the common good, or for short-term gain (respectively). No demons necessary. Just lots of small decisions.

    Well said. Both my wife and I have pondered working for the UN, because the jobs there provide a mechanism to help the poor who would otherwise not have many avenues of assistance.

    The hyperbole needs to be toned down.

  11. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 10:03 am #

    That said, here’s the question: does the moment they give up their arms mean they are no longer free? You seem to equate freedom with the right to bear arms, as if the moment you give up those weapons, you are no longer free.

    Giving up our arms voluntarily when Christ comes to reign will be a voluntary initiative because He will be our protector, caregiver, and King. Until that time, evil men seeking to tyrannically impose upon our liberties are seeking to force us to give up our arms so as not to be able to defend ourselves.

    I don’t equate the bearing of arms with freedom, though an armed populace is much more likely to retain their liberties than an unarmed one.

    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. —James Madison

    The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. —Alexander Hamilton

    To disarm the people… was the best and most effectual way to enslave them. —George Mason

    The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. —Adolf Hitler

    Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms. —Aristotle

    And a humorous one..

    You know why there’s a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one. —Rush Limbaugh

    Frankly, I trust the Lord to keep me free far more than I trust the arms of flesh to keep me free.

    You and me both, brother.

  12. fontor
    October 20, 2006 at 10:07 am #

    Fontor, I don’t expect a self-labeled “ex-Mormon atheist” to believe this stuff!

    Yeah, I wondered whether I should say anything. For one second. Then I jumped in. 🙂

    Different starting assumptions lead to different conclusions. Isn’t it always the way? I do understand where you’re coming from though.

    Having said my bit, I’ll yield the floor unless someone asks me a specific question. Always good to drop by.

  13. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 10:07 am #

    Both my wife and I have pondered working for the UN, because the jobs there provide a mechanism to help the poor who would otherwise not have many avenues of assistance.

    Oh man, don’t even get me started on the corrupt World Bank and International Monetary Fund… that’s a threadjack begging to be discussed! 🙂 Here’s a snippet from Congressman Ron Paul hinting at what I might say on the subject:

    Everything the U.N. does from day one, you give up a certain amount of your sovereignty. And, the worst giving up is this notion of going to war under U.N. resolutions, which we did very quickly after we got in the United Nations. There was a U.N. resolution and we sent off all those men to get killed in Korea.

    Whether it’s that, or the WTO that manages trade, or the IMF that we subsidize with our taxpayers’ money and then they go off and play games with their special interests. They rarely ever help poor countries. The World Bank isn’t any better. That’s an international welfare scheme. It’s sold as a scheme that’s going to help poor people in poor countries. But, all these programs end up helping the very wealthy, connected corporations and banks. (via)

  14. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 10:13 am #

    Connor,

    Giving up our arms voluntarily when Christ comes to reign will be a voluntary initiative because He will be our protector, caregiver, and King. Until that time, evil men seeking to tyrannically impose upon our liberties are seeking to force us to give up our arms so as not to be able to defend ourselves.

    Again, with the Lord on my side and my nation’s side, how can ANY “evil men” impose their will upon me or my nation? It can only come from within.

    And as far as Congressman Paul…..well, you don’t have to be informed or knowledgable to run for government in America, unfortunately.

  15. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 10:19 am #

    Again, with the Lord on my side and my nation’s side, how can ANY “evil men” impose their will upon me or my nation? It can only come from within.

    Whoa, whoa, let’s back up here. Are you saying that the Lord is on our nation’s side right now? I firmly believe that the Constitution was inspired, but as you’d probably agree, our leaders have passed several laws and policies that have deviated us from its founding principles.

    It was our own prophet who has declared, regarding the Book of Mormon and its prophetic view of our own day:

    The people succumbed to the wiles of ambitious and scheming leaders who oppressed them with burdensome taxes, who lulled them with hollow promises, who countenanced and even encouraged loose and lascivious living. These evil schemers led the people into terrible wars that resulted in the death of millions…

    The Lord is only on our side if we repent and follow Him:

    For behold, thus saith the Lord: I will not show unto the wicked of my strength, to one more than the other, save it be unto those who repent of their sins, and hearken unto my words. (Hel. 7:23)

  16. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 10:25 am #

    Oh I agree, as a nation we are turning away from God—and that is extremely dangerous, and will get violent. It just saddens me that as a nation, we feel the need to resort to violence to solve our problems.

    I guess what I am saying is that I don’t see the ownership of guns as the end-all-be-all of freedom as some do, and as I’m assuming, from your posts, you do.

  17. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 10:28 am #

    It just saddens me that as a nation, we feel the need to resort to violence to solve our problems.

    I totally agree. Along these lines I love this quote by President Benson:

    We are a warlike people, easily distracted from our assignment of preparing for the coming of the Lord. When enemies rise up, we commit vast resources to the fabrication of gods of stone and steel—ships, planes, missiles, fortifications—and depend on them for protection and deliverance. When threatened, we become anti-enemy instead of pro-kingdom of God; we train a man in the art of war and call him a patriot, thus, in the manner of Satan’s counterfeit of true patriotism, perverting the Savior’s teachings

    I guess what I am saying is that I don’t see the ownership of guns as the end-all-be-all of freedom as some do, and as I’m assuming, from your posts, you do.

    I don’t see it as the “end-all-be-all”, but as one important tool in self-defense against corrupt government, preying intruders, and anybody else seeking to threaten my family. But freedom at large only comes, as you hopefully would agree, from obeying Christ and implementing His teachings.

  18. Political Animal
    October 20, 2006 at 11:23 am #

    We have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Mexico and Canada do not. One would assume that in the homogenization of our three countries we would have to abandon such a right.

    Assumptions like this are indicative of your general misunderstanding of history and politics. In case you didn’t know, the United States is a government of fifty individual governments–each with differing rights and rules governing its own citizens. If your assumption were logical or legitimate, the principle of states rights and federalism would be moot (a truism). Many states within broader unified coalition governments (like the U.S.) have rights that other states do not grant their citizens. For example, comapre Massachusetts’ legalization of gay marriage with the majority of other states who have constitutionally banned it!

    If you were alive in the mid-18th century, you would have thought the plan to unify the 13 colonies would have been a satanic conspiracy to dominate the world under demonic power. You would have been wrong. Think it through and resist your inclination to be paranoid!

  19. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 11:32 am #

    Assumptions like this are indicative of your general misunderstanding of history and politics.

    Ouch. 🙂

    In case you didn’t know, the United States is a government of fifty individual governments–each with differing rights and rules governing its own citizens.

    I vaguely remember my History professor teaching me this…….

    If you were alive in the mid-18th century, you would have thought the plan to unify the 13 colonies would have been a satanic conspiracy to dominate the world under demonic power. You would have been wrong.

    Doubtful. The unification of the colonies was to secure liberties and “provide for the common defense” under an integrated system of government. I sincerely believe that the men who founded our nation were inspired of God, not seeking to introduce tyranny or implement a “satanic conspiracy”. Far from paranoia, an understanding of the reasons behind today’s shift towards a one-world government is apparent to anybody who reads the scriptures. Constitution good, secret combinations bad.

    Think it through and resist your inclination to be paranoid!

    Please believe that I do indeed do this. What you label as paranoia, I label as seeking truth in scriptures and from modern prophets and observing what is really going on behind the scenes in the political affairs of nations in our day.

  20. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 12:13 pm #

    Connor,

    I totally agree. Along these lines I love this quote by President Benson:

    A minor thing….that was actually President Spencer W. Kimball and not Ezra Taft Benson.

    Doubtful. The unification of the colonies was to secure liberties and “provide for the common defense” under an integrated system of government.

    Hmmm, that seems to be the exact reason those who wish to see the EU, or other regional organizations flourish.

    Please believe that I do indeed do this. What you label as paranoia, I label as seeking truth in scriptures and from modern prophets and observing what is really going on behind the scenes in the political affairs of nations in our day.

    The problem is, though, Connor, that you quote pretty hyperbolic sources whose credibility is very questionable.

  21. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 12:39 pm #

    Oops, yeah, it was Pres. Kimball. Thanks for pointing that out.

    The problem is, though, Connor, that you quote pretty hyperbolic sources whose credibility is very questionable.

    I quote extensively from scriptures and modern prophets. While I also link to other web pages once in a while that contain extra information on the topic, I do not deem them as wholly truthful or accurate. I include them simply as a reference point for anybody who may be interested in learning more, using the spirit of discernment to determine for themselves if it’s truthful or not.

  22. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 1:12 pm #

    I do not deem them as wholly truthful or accurate.

    Then why quote them? it undermines your credibility and point of view.

  23. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 1:22 pm #

    Which “hyperbolic sources whose credibility is very questionable” was I quoting? Other than throwing in a quote from a Congressman to illustrate my own views on the UN/World Banking topic, I’ve only quoted from scriptures and Church leaders. I have, as I mentioned, included a couple links to other sources simply so that others may find out more information on the topics should they so choose. But I have not quoted from them nor cited any statements from these sites. I leave it up to the curious reader to investigate more fully what such things are all about.

  24. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 2:04 pm #

    Well, I’ll leave it at this. Linking to those sites assumes to the reader that you find those sites credible for the topic at hand, regardless if you actually quote them. In any case, I just don’t think it is a black and white application. Some groupings and organizations are actually doing good, while others, I agree, are rather evil. By their fruits ye shall know them.

  25. Kelly Winterton
    October 20, 2006 at 2:35 pm #

    wow, what an exchange has been going back and forth. I am no history expert, but would like to give my thoughts. I believe in the concept of being here on earth to be tested to see if we can withstand the temptations of Satan, and choose the better path. The War in Heaven taught us that Satan seeks to gain the glory from God, and that we, here on earth, are seeing the struggle between Satan and Christ in bringing about the eternal plan of God. We here on earth must question things around us, and identify which force is at work in the earth. If my basic belief of this is true, this must mean to me that world, national, state, county, neighborhood, etc. events are either working with God’s plan or against it, and it is up to me to judge, vote, or work for the divine, not evil. So, I must ask myself – – is the UN or the CFR or the Trilateral Commission (or Skull and Bones) working for God or for Satan? As I study a bit about these organizations, I am appalled to learn that those at the very top of these organizations do actually worship Lucifer. Perhaps the underlings in these organizations do not realize who their leaders are worshipping, and choose to be members just to do good to the world. But, I still believe that the key leaders of these organizations who are promoting NWO do indeed worship Lucifer. These leaders are just trying to take the glory away from Christ, not give the glory to Him.

  26. Dan
    October 20, 2006 at 3:13 pm #

    Kelly,

    What evidence do you have that the leaders at the top of these organizations “worship Lucifer?”

  27. Robert
    October 20, 2006 at 7:50 pm #

    Well, as the only non-Mormon who posts here (until I get banned), this post reminded me of a comment made at Grace Cathedral. During a sermon, the Dean of the Cathedra commented that many “still believed in a literal return of Christ”. That also reminded my of a Rector who commented that he wished the Book of Revelation had NOT been included in the New Testament. Then I realized that Revelations is never part of the readings in our liturgy.

    These endtime beliefs have been filtered out of many mainline denominations. I suppose because Revel;ations is full of symbolism, We also never hear about “hell” or anything that isn’t positive and designed to make us feel good.

    I, however, do believe the struggles between good and evil described in the Book of Revelations will happen. I also believe Christ will literally return one day.

  28. Connor
    October 20, 2006 at 9:32 pm #

    Well, as the only non-Mormon who posts here (until I get banned)

    Robert, somebody as kind as you has no reason to get baned!

    I also believe Christ will literally return one day.

    I know He will. It’s just a matter of preparation. Will we be like the unwise virgins who didn’t have oil for their lamps, or will we be ready for His arrival?

  29. Robert
    October 20, 2006 at 11:48 pm #

    Thanks for the compliment! It’s odd that Mormons seem to have always liked me better than my own parish! Anway, I always felt the best way to prepare for the Second Coming was to live life as a Christian, and to have your life reflect your beliefs. In the end, the governments of the world and all the evil people, are just temporary; God is ultimately in control, and our faith needs to be in Him.

  30. Doc
    October 21, 2006 at 8:21 am #

    Connor,
    The world is full of poverty and haves and have nots, As globalization continues the haves are organized crime rings that shift their base of operations from country to country to evade any kind of law enforcement. On another blog you yourself stated that much of world poverty is the mismanagement of resources by petty dictators without the good of their country in mind, and yet you stand here convinced theat the secret combinations are those who are working for a united world government. I don’t get it.

    It seems to me that the people in position to organize for self gain are clearly the corporations and organized crime networks we see around the world today. It’s the Al-quaeda’s funding themselves throughdrug money. It the corruption that has pushed Russian democracy into oblivion. Casting aspersion on those who clearly want a better world using a few vaque scriptural references seems unwarranted when groups that clearly fit the bill are quite obviously already present.

  31. Connor
    October 21, 2006 at 9:14 am #

    On another blog you yourself stated that much of world poverty is the mismanagement of resources by petty dictators without the good of their country in mind, and yet you stand here convinced theat the secret combinations are those who are working for a united world government. I don’t get it.

    Read None Dare Call It Conspiracy (which President Bensons recommended in a General Conference talk) and you’ll get it! 🙂

  32. Michael L. Mc Kee
    October 23, 2006 at 2:20 pm #

    As I attempted to spiritually relate to this topic, and the comments of the participants, I was struck by what I believe is , for me anyway, a profound similarity to the so-called “war in Heaven.” As a participant in that conflict prior to being called to begin my earthly journey I have often thought about the part I played. I was reminded of my initial thoughts many years ago when I was first introduced to the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ that I was likely a “fence sitter.”

    I suppose my inclination to state this is because I had not been very adept at standing for anything significant or substantive prior to reaching the age of 24. I was also living a sinful life, and was likely torn between wanting to continue partaking of the worldly offerings of the adversary, as well as completely turning away from them. Fortunately I chose to begin trying to turn away from the adversary by accepting the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Unfortunately my naive inward conclusion that my sins would be washed out to sea with the tide was erroneous.

    For the sake of clarity, I was in Vietnam at the time (1971), and was baptized in the South China Sea. Anyone other than a casual observer may have determined that my foundational understanding of the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ was established upon a rather weak concept. That being said it was not long before I realized that I was still very much a sinful person and decided that even though I was absolutely certain the things I had come to know about the Church were true, I would not fit very comfortably into such a perfect society. For the next 30 years I abandoned the thought about the position I had taken in my pre-earth life until about 5 years ago when I decided that I had for some reason been permitted by Heavenly Father to remain in my tabernacle of Flesh in spite of the many times I rejected the atonement so that I could continue chasing after worldly desires.

    At that point I embarked upon a determined effort to see the entire process of repentance, and eternal progress through to the highest realm of the Celestial Kingdom, and the dwelling place of Him who gave my spirit life. There is one thing of which I am absolutely certain at this juncture in my life as well as this point in time, and space. I was not a “fence sitter” in the pre-earth war, and I am not one in the war which rages at this time in the United States of America, and throughout the earth.

    There is a profound difference between good, and evil, and I know this because I have become very familiar with both. I chose evil out of fear, and good out of faith. Where once I was alone, and fearful, I am now in possession of the most awsome power on earth, and all other realms of creation, and that is the Word of Jesus Christ. I can no longer engage in debate over where my allegiance lies for it has been sufficiently defined. If you are not as yet certain about your stand I would recommend you define it soon. The scriptures are clear when you approach them spiritually, and prayerfully.

    As for me I will follow the Prophet, not the profit. I will prepare for the reign of Jesus Christ upon the earth by following the examples of Heleman, and Captain Moroni. I will also follow the leadership of the original founders of the principles of the Constitution of the United States of America. In short I will be on the side of absolute truth, and justice without the least degree of consideration for political correctness, multiculturalism, or any other form of national or world politics which is devoid of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. “Choose ye this day whom ye shall serve.”

  33. Daniel
    March 28, 2007 at 6:43 pm #

    Here’s a quote from Ezra T. Benson about the New World Order. This stuff is as real as it gets.

    Ensign, Nov, 1988, 86

    I Testify

    I testify that wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our society. It is more highly organized, more cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before. Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world.

    I’ve come to this web site because I want to know why more Mormons aren’t talking about this subject. This is SERIOUS stuff. We’re looking a the REAL ID Act, the precursor to us all getting chipped, being implemented in May 2008! We’re looking at the end of the United States by the North American Union. Habeus Corpus has not just been suspended but ELIMINATED! I’ve heard, since I was a child, that the church was supposed to step in when the constitution was hanging by a thread and save America. Where’s the church in all this? I feel like I’m working with a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the ground. No one even knows anything and certainly no one is doing anything. I was completely astonished to see Connor’s website. Where’s the love?

  34. Kelly Winterton
    March 28, 2007 at 8:48 pm #

    Daniel, Make sure you search out a book by Dr. Jack Monnett of BYU. It is called Awakening to Our Awful Situation. It is sub-titled something like Prophecies of the Nephite Prophets for the Latter-Days, or something to that effect. My copy is on loan right now, so I don’t know the exact title. I think our Constitution is in tatters right now, and you and I have our work cut out for us, or else the prophecy of being saved by good people will have to come about by someone in another church or organization, or perhaps the Lord will condemn us and raise up another people. Get crackin’!!

  35. Nicklasa
    May 22, 2007 at 7:48 am #

    Connor, thank you for taking the time, with guidance from the Spirit, to facilitate such profound and sacred discussion. I have been putting together the reality you speak of for about five years now. Like Daniel, I am disappointed in the general population, including a majority of those latter-day saints who should know better. I testify that the words of the scriptures and prophets are clear and contain the truth, and I believe your interpretation is true. I have been amazed by this site because my interpretation of reality has been very similar. The Spirit has led me to this understanding because I have asked and begged to know–comparing everything to the Book of Mormon. Brothers and Sisters, DC 123 sums up our duty. Yes, this applies to us today, too.

  36. ron
    July 18, 2007 at 1:51 pm #

    I did not get to far into the article before I ran into disagreement with Dr. Smith.

    We here in the U.S. have changed the understanding of a word or two. A politician practices the art of compromise.

    When Jesus returns he will already have been crowned but not become the chief practicer of compromise.

    It won’t be political. He will rule absolutely.
    Rev 2:27 And2532 he shall rule4165 them846 with1722 a rod4464 of iron;4603 as5613 the3588 vessels4632 of a potter2764 shall they be broken to shivers:4937 even as5613 I2504 received2983 of3844 my3450 Father.3962

    Rev 19:15 And2532 out of1537 his848 mouth4750 goeth1607 a sharp3691 sword,4501 that2443 with1722 it846 he should smite3960 the3588 nations:1484 and2532 he846 shall rule4165 them846 with1722 a rod4464 of iron:4603 and2532 he846 treadeth3961 the3588 winepress3025, 3631 of the3588 fierceness2372 and2532 wrath3709 of Almighty3841 God.2316

    Also I disagree that there will be an end to all nations. Icannot find this in the scripture anywhere but what I do find is also in Revelations.
    Rev 20:7 And2532 when3752 the3588 thousand5507 years2094 are expired,5055 Satan4567 shall be loosed3089 out of1537 his846 prison,5438
    Rev 20:8 And2532 shall go out1831 to deceive4105 the3588 nations1484 which3588 are in1722 the3588 four5064 quarters1137 of the3588 earth,1093 Gog1136 and2532 Magog,3098 to gather them together4863, 846 to1519 battle:4171 the3588 number706 of whom3739 is as5613 the3588 sand285 of the3588 sea.2281

    If Jesus ended the nations then what or who is Satin going to decieve when afer the thousand years.

    Jesus will not end the nations and I find furthe thought that the nations will be known as seperate entities even after the (coined ) great white thrown Judgement. by this parable found in Mathew, the parable of the lambs and the goats.

    Mat 25:32 And2532 before1715 him846 shall be gathered4863 all3956 nations:1484 and2532 he shall separate873 them846 one from another,240, 575 as5618 a shepherd4166 divideth873 his sheep4263 from575 the3588 goats:2056

    I do agree that the Devil is attempting to mimmic or coopt the Word. I do agree that trying to establish a borderless world by economic globalization and (coined) New World Order.

    I know it will fail though, the world and the Devil jumped the Gun. In my opinion all this trouble to golbalize can only set up the world for the Final and Terrible Beast.

    Keep up the fight.

  37. Glynda Lomax
    April 27, 2009 at 7:41 pm #

    GREAT BLOG CONNOR !!!!! I couldn’t agree more! Satan’s desire from the beginning was to BE God and he’s still trying, isn’t he. Very intelligently written! By the way, has anyone read The Guardian of Heaven series? It was written by a member of the LDS, Mark H. Barratt and is the story of the two final witnesses – RIVETING !!! (www.GuardianofHeaven.com if you want to check them out).
    Looking forward to reading more of your blogs – GL

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